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Don’t fly in on a Sunday. Play in heavily trafficked areas. Always use a player card. Never use a player card. As soon as anyone heard we were dashing off to Sin City this past December, advice on how to beat the odds in Las Vegas bubbled over.
Want the best odds of returning home with lots of money after a jaunt to Las Vegas? Don’t get off the plane. I know full well that stepping foot in a casino is akin to lighting my dollarsquartersnickels pennies on fire. But the cacophony of blazing neon, screaming bells, victorious whoops, and defeated sighs is too much of a siren song for me to resist. While I certainly did not win big, I left with some interesting lessons after sitting one seat away from a winning slot machine on this past vacation.
It’s Hard to be Genuinely Happy for Others
While I’d like to think I’m a good person, maybe I’m not. When I plopped myself down in front of the Goldfish slot machine and fished out a $10 bill, I was happy. Even though I knew I would lose this money and then some, I was happy. Then, I watched a woman slide over to the machine next to me, push in a twenty-dollar bill, and win over $100. I was no longer happy. I was gobsmacked. Sure, I smiled and clapped for her in her excitement until her friends came over and could celebrate with sincere gusto. But I wasn’t actually happy that she won. I was annoyed that I didn’t.
I know comparison robs joy from everyone. I know my momma raised me better. But sometimes it’s hard to be genuinely happy for other people. Maybe I’m a giant jerkface, maybe it’s human nature. But spending time in Vegas reminded me of how important it is to cheer on other people and mean it. Life is about so much more than our own experiences. There’s no reason to hope we don’t all win big.
People’s Stories are Private
I know exactly one fact about that winning machine. The woman put in $20 and left with over $100. I know not because she told me, but because I saw it happen. I have no idea how long she’d been playing. Maybe this was her first half hour on a casino floor in her entire life. Maybe she had already been in Vegas for a handful of days or the better part of a week. Maybe she is a local who plays before or after her work shift every day. Perhaps she wins thousands and only puts in a few hundred. Perhaps she wins hundreds but puts in a few thousand. I’ll never know.
What we see when we meet someone very rarely tells us the whole story. Of course, we make judgments and assumptions, inferences and hypotheses. Even if someone starts to connect the dots for us, we’ll never know everything. While it might be really easy to dismiss or exalt someone based on a single encounter, that’s a fool’s errand. In fact, you probably have better odds at the craps table than figuring out a person’s life story.
There’s No Such Thing as Luck
Las Vegas is brilliant — not just the blinding lights, but the masterminds who have engineered the entire concept. Let’s make losing money fun. So much fun that people will want to come back. Not just once, but yearly. In fact, let’s add so many bells and whistles that many people will make the pilgrimage several times a year. Everybody wants to get lucky. Vanguard could take a lesson from Vegas.*
When the woman stood up from the slot machine, she giggled to her companions, and they hugged her and screeched. Like football players entering an arena, they tried to high-five other gamblers who lined the aisle on the way to the exit, shouting about her good luck. There’s no such thing as luck. All of those squawking machines are computers in disguise. Mathematics, probability, patterns, and programming, yes. Luck, no. The sooner we realize that life has very little to do with luck, the better.
Knowing When to Walk Away is a Skill
That woman got up and left as soon as she won big. Perhaps she went out to dinner. Maybe she went to a nightclub. For all I know, she went back to her hotel room, packed her bags, taxied out to McCarran International Airport, and left Las Vegas a bonafide winner. If she’s anything like Mr. P, though, she strolled over two aisles and found another one-armed bandit to gobble up her winnings and then some.
If I’ve learned anything watching Mr. P become transfixed by the bells and cherries and sevens, it’s how difficult it is to walk away. I’m usually never up enough to do anything other than simply lose the $10 I started with, but I’ve seen Mr. P quadruple his money in one pull of the lever. However, because his is a perpetual quest to hit it big one more time, very rarely does he leave with anything. Losing $10 might sting a little. Winning $40 and then losing $50 stings a lot more. Whether it’s a slot machine or another insurmountable obstacle, knowing when to walk away is a skill that would serve us all well to master.
I Have More than I Realize…Much More
My first instinct when I saw that woman toddle away with her hundred dollars was to wonder, Why not me? And then I mentally tallied up all the different things that I would have done with that money. But the further I followed that train of thought, the more grateful I became. I could afford to gamble away some money. I had the fortitude to walk away. Beyond that, we also had the insight to gift a trip to ourselves instead of more stuff for Christmas. We had the resources to make the trip really affordable. Most importantly, we had the ability to plan a vacation knowing full well we would come back financially poorer but richer in experience.
It is so easy to get caught up in the successes of others and shortchange ourselves. It is especially difficult when those successes are so visible, so applauded. Nothing I have ever earned came with bells, flashing lights, and extra IRS forms to report my winnings. But I have a lot, much more than I often allow myself to realize.
*Bogel, you did a lot of things right. But man, think of the missed opportunities with that login page.
So Tell Me…Have you ever been to Vegas? Have you ever found yourself learning lessons in strange places?
No. June's report here. The Win% represents the casino's win amount / total coin in.
Apologies, as I know this is mostly off topic, but since the link is posted here...
I'm surprised to find that the win % on table games is double that of slots. Clark county shows a steady 7% win, but games like 21 & craps which have much lower HE are way more profitable per dollar of action than the slots. How is that possible? Are people really so atrocious at these games? I guess VP would get folded into 'slots' in this report, but still, 14% on BJ? I thought even the hold on a 6/5 game was closer to 3-4%.
I don’t believe the win % for table games is an accurate reflection of the house edge, like it is with machines.
From what I’ve been told here, it’s the % of money dropped won by the casino.
Man when I read the thread title, I thought it was 'how to win a slot machine'. I'd like to win a slot machine.
Of course there are ways to beat slots and there are people who see the advantages at the progressives and play with a large enough bankroll to overcome variance and have a +EV experience.
Non-progressives? Not possible.
I think you could beat Non-Progressives but you need some help like faulty meters, promotions. mailers... etc etc.
I've done it so it can be done but usually when your on some promotion you can find progressives unless stated 'no progressives' in the promotion rules.
I played on a Reel Machine Flat that was 97.5% payback but you could use your points to turn the game over 100% return
In that same shop later down the road the Goldfish Slot game was best with the promotion that was offered. I put over a million coin in on Goldfish alone!!
Interestingly there is a Casino Promotion coming up going to double all slot jackpots but VP is not allowed and they cap it at a certain amount but it still might be worth a look.
It is pretty clear now for many years that most players do not want to go through the aggravation of Reels and I can understand that. I enjoy beating Reels as much as I enjoy beating any other game in the house but I have more fun finding glitches or advantages with Reels compared to other plays.
This last week I was on 3 plays and this is the session break down for them...
Machine 1:
1 hour and 50 mins of play
5170 Coin In
Jackpot Total: $1338
Net Win/Loss: + $228
Points Earned: + $52 cash back
Toke: - $10
Machine 2:
3 hours and 20 mins of play
7450 Coin In
Jackpot Total: $2058
Net Win/Loss: + $615
Points Earned: + $45 cash back
Toke: - $27
Machine 3:
27 hours and 10 mins of play
64800 Coin In
Jackpot Total: $5187
Net Win/Loss: + $6595
Points Earned + $195 cash back
Toke: - $65
Total Win/Loss not counting comps earned or written on the fly or Mail on the way.
+ $7,628.00
The figures are rounded up slightly.
How do you beat Slots? You get Lucky! I get Lucky alot!
I have the pictures of the jackpots but do I really need to post them? I want to post them but I rather just not. I've posted enough slot Jackpots to show where they are and how to play them. Most players aren't going to either have the time and energy or they just don't believe you can beat them. Do I always win at Reels? Not on every session or every Jackpot but at the end of the month/year I am always far ahead but remember you can't beat Slots... impossible!
No. June's report here. The Win% represents the casino's win amount / total coin in.
Apologies, as I know this is mostly off topic, but since the link is posted here...
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I'm surprised to find that the win % on table games is double that of slots. Clark county shows a steady 7% win, but games like 21 & craps which have much lower HE are way more profitable per dollar of action than the slots. How is that possible? Are people really so atrocious at these games? I guess VP would get folded into 'slots' in this report, but still, 14% on BJ? I thought even the hold on a 6/5 game was closer to 3-4%.I don�t believe the win % for table games is an accurate reflection of the house edge, like it is with machines.
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From what I�ve been told here, it�s the % of money dropped won by the casino.Meaning what? The average player cashes out with 12% less than they buy in with? I don't know why you would report it that way, though I would be way more inclined to believe it.
I don't know why you would report it that way, though I would be way more inclined to believe it.
There was a previous thread: 'What is hold percentage?' I'm not allowed yet to link, but if you enter 3327 (the thread #) in the search box, it should appear in the results list.
Basically, it's reported that way because the casinos don't have a practical method of tracking every individual table bet and payout.
There was a previous thread: 'What is hold percentage?' I'm not allowed yet to link, but if you enter 3327 (the thread #) in the search box, it should appear in the results list.
Basically, it's reported that way because the casinos don't have a practical method of tracking every individual table bet and payout.
Read the thread top to bottom. That is still a really odd way to track, but it makes sense that there isn't a clear way to report any other metric.
It strikes me that if one wanted to sink 6/5 blackjack they could walk around buying into $10 tables for $1000, play 3 hands, and walk, no matter how they went. Do this a few dozen times a month multiplied by a half dozen people and you could throw off the hold % even at a smaller strip casino.
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54000 Coin In
Jackpot Total: $5238
Net Win/Loss: Loss - $755
Points Earned + $540 cash back
Toke: - $35
Net Loss - $250
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You can't always win... I was messing about with this game, scouting if you will. It was a pretty ugly start, getting stuck 7k... rushed up a bit and was only down 2500 and after that the bottom fell out again. I ended up putting in 10k and down 9500 at one point... went on a bit of a rush and hit the lower jackpot for 5238... after that hit some sevens and red sevens and decided to get out down 250 with 54k coin in. That specific machine does something I never have seen before which was interesting... very interesting.
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Machine: 4
Around 4 Hours of Play
54000 Coin In
Jackpot Total: $5238
Net Win/Loss: Loss - $755
Points Earned + $540 cash back
Toke: - $35
Net Loss - $250
Here is a Picture for those who like to look...
You can't always win... I was messing about with this game, scouting if you will. It was a pretty ugly start, getting stuck 7k... rushed up a bit and was only down 2500 and after that the bottom fell out again. I ended up putting in 10k and down 9500 at one point... went on a bit of a rush and hit the lower jackpot for 5238... after that hit some sevens and red sevens and decided to get out down 250 with 54k coin in. That specific machine does something I never have seen before which was interesting... very interesting.
That was a whirlwind of ups and downs, which I'm sure is the fun, but if after a 10k bankroll run and ending down $250 even after the freeplay/cash back, how is this winning at slots?
FYI.... getting stuck 10k or more is never fun even if you get out. Try it sometime and let me know how you feel when your down 10k or 20k.